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Приехав с другого города мы отдали 80.000 (внимание! 2 года назад) на консультацию, и ведение системными ретиноидами.\nМеня никак не подготовили к ним, никаких чисток от комедонов, наружных антибиотиков, для уменьшения воспаления, ничего этого не было.\nПросто сделали фото, выписали Ля Рош Эффаклар(надеюсь сейчас этого не делают) и сказали сдать анализы для выписки рецепта. \nКуча всякого ненужного, по типу тест на беременность, когда я ребенок и не веду половую жизнь, или пойти к терапевту, когда у меня на фоне активного воспаления акне повышены лейкоциты, что естественно, и конечно же терапевт мне ничего не сказал. Ну да ладно. А так анализы были хорошие и далее даже отличные.\nМне выписали рецепт, сказали сколько мг пить в начале и все. Дальше «ведение» заключалось в том, что я буквально допытывалась до врача сама, что мне делать дальше. Я так поняла, Екатерина Александровна не ведет никакой дневник для таких пациентов. Если сам не написал, то всем все равно, деньги то уже уплачены :))\nЗакончила я пить через год, так и не поняв, как это рассчитано так было.\nНа момент как я закончила, у меня еще были комедоны, которые мне сказали помазать Клензитом С. На радостях, что кожа теперь выглядит иначе, поблагодарила доктора, но все таки работа была почти исключительно только таблеток.\nНи о какой поддерживающей терапии мне не сказали. Ответили лишь как убрать рубцы(опять за миллионы в этой клинике).\nИтог: спустя 2 года у меня рецидив, деньги выброшены в пустую, т.к. на консультации у другого врача косметолога, рассказав сколько я пила мг и какая была кумулятивная доза, мне сказали , что дозировка была очень низкая для моего веса и степени акне, и что ни в коем случае нельзя отменять, пока есть комедоны, так как это тоже воспаления. Ремиссии хватило лишь на 2 года. 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As it was, the tests were good and even excellent.\nThey gave me a prescription, told me how many mg to drink at the beginning, and that was it. Further \"management\" consisted in the fact that I literally asked the doctor myself what to do next. As I understand it, Ekaterina Alexandrovna does not keep any diary for such patients. If you didn't write it yourself, then no one cares, the money has already been paid :))\nI finished drinking a year later, without understanding how it was calculated that way.\nBy the time I finished, I still had comedones, which I was told to anoint with Clenzite C. Overjoyed that the skin now looks different, I thanked the doctor, but still the work was almost exclusively on pills.\nThey didn't tell me about any maintenance therapy. They only answered how to remove the scars (again for millions in this clinic).\nBottom line: after 2 years, I had a relapse, and the money was wasted, because at a consultation with another cosmetologist, after telling me how much mg I drank and what the cumulative dose was, I was told that the dosage was very low for my weight and acne, and that in no case should I cancel while I have comedones, as these are also inflammations. The remission lasted only 2 years. I do not recommend anyone to treat acne with systemic retinoids if someone wants remission for many years.","KK":"2 жыл бұрын Рыбовалова Екатерина Александровнаның жүйелік ретиноидтармен \"емделуіне\" бардым. Басқа қаладан келгеннен кейін біз 80.000 бердік (назар аударыңыз! 2 жыл бұрын) консультацияға және жүйелік ретиноидтарды басқаруға.\nОлар мені оларға дайындаған жоқ, қабынуды азайту үшін комедондардан, сыртқы антибиотиктерден тазартулар болған жоқ, бұл ештеңе болған жоқ.\nОлар жай ғана суретке түсірді, ла Рош Эфакларды жазды (қазір олай емес деп үміттенемін) және рецепт бойынша тест тапсыруды айтты. \nМен бала кезімде және жыныстық қатынасқа түспегенде немесе терапевтке барғанда, безеудің белсенді қабынуы аясында лейкоциттер көбейген кезде, бұл табиғи нәрсе, және, әрине, терапевт маған ештеңе айтқан жоқ. Жарайды, жарайды. Сонымен, талдаулар жақсы болды, тіпті одан да жақсы болды.\nМаған рецепт жазылды, басында қанша мг ішу керектігін айтты және солай болды. Әрі қарай, \"басқару\" - бұл дәрігердің алдында Мен бұдан әрі не істеуім керек екенін өзім сынап көрдім. Мен Екатерина Александровна мұндай науқастар үшін күнделік жүргізбейтінін түсіндім. Егер ол өзі жазбаған болса, онда бәріне бәрібір, ақша төленді:))\nМен бір жылдан кейін ішуді аяқтадым, бұл қалай есептелгенін түсінбедім.\nАяқтаған кезде менде әлі де комедондар болды, олар маған Клензит С-мен майлау керектігін айтты, қуанышта, тері қазір басқаша көрінеді, дәрігерге алғыс айтты, бірақ жұмыс тек таблеткалар болды.\nМаған ешқандай қолдау терапиясы туралы айтылған жоқ. Олар тек тыртықтарды қалай алып тастауға жауап берді(тағы да осы клиникада миллиондаған).\nТөменгі жол: 2 жылдан кейін менде рецидив бар, ақша босқа тасталды, өйткені басқа косметологпен кеңесіп, мен қанша мг ішкенімді және кумулятивті дозаның қандай екенін айтып, маған доза өте төмен екенін айтты. менің салмағым мен безеу дәрежесі үшін және оны әлі де алып тастауға болмайды комедондар, өйткені бұл да қабыну. Ремиссия тек 2 жылға созылды. Егер біреу көптеген жылдар бойы ремиссияны қаласа, жүйелік ретиноидтардағы безеуді емдеу үшін ешкімге кеңес бермеймін.","TR":"2 yıl önce Rybovalova Ekaterina Aleksandrovna'da sistemik retinoidlerle «tedaviyi» ziyaret ettim. Başka bir şehirden geldiğimizde 80.000 verdik (dikkat! 2 yıl önce) konsültasyon ve sistemik retinoidlerle yönetim için.\nOnlar için hiçbir şekilde hazırlanmadım, iltihabı azaltmak için komedonlardan, harici antibiyotiklerden temizlik yapılmadı, bunların hiçbiri olmadı.\nSadece bir fotoğraf çektiler, La Roche Effaclar'ı yazdılar (umarım bunu şimdi yapmıyorlar) ve reçeteyi yazmak için test yaptırmalarını söylediler. \nHamilelik testi gibi, çocukken ve cinsel olarak aktif olmadığımda ya da aknenin aktif iltihabının arka planına karşı beyaz kan hücrelerim yükseldiğinde bir terapiste gitmek gibi bir sürü gereksiz şey, ki bu doğaldır ve tabii ki terapist bana hiçbir şey söylememiştir. Hadi ama. 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